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Oust Pelosi and Reid!

Mon Jun 23, 2008 at 11:59:52 AM PDT

It is now clear that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are themselves "Blue Dog Democrats."

When asked to stand behind our Constitution and stand by Democratic principles, they cower before the President and his merry band.  

Rep. Pelosi and Sen. Reid know that no bill could be considered in congress without their aquesence.  They think I'm too dumb to see that, so they offer excuses that they personally disagree with Amnesty, but cry there's nothing they can do.

The United States of America is now in the business of selling Indulgences.  I know they'll get cheaper over time, but I also know they'll never be inexpensive enough for me to afford.

I just can't believe it!

Blue Dogs or Red Dogs, Part II

Mon May 12, 2008 at 08:05:38 AM PDT

Today is the day to take action on H.R. 5740.  As I outlined on Friday:

It's time to draw a line in the sand. There are forty-seven members of the Blue Dog Democrats, and we need to know which ones support the U.S. troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan and which ones agree with Rep. John Tanner that they are nothing more than deficit-enhancing debris. This is what Mr. Tanner had to say when announcing the plan by a segment of the Blue Dogs to block a vote on the GI Bill of Rights:

Some of us oppose creating a new entitlement program in an emergency spending bill, whether it’s butchers, bakers or candlestick-makers.

A group that has voted time after time to support George Bush's war, at a cost of over $500 billion dollars, now dismisses the men and women who risked their lives as candlestick-makers who don't deserve money to go to college? The Blue Dog's reason? Because their budgetary rule of pay-as-you-go has "been ignored one too many times." Yes, these champions of fiscal responsibility are fine with George Bush's twice-a-year $100 billion "supplementals," they are fine with billions going to Halliburton and Blackwater, but when it comes to providing a benefit to the people who fought in the war that the Blue Dogs supported, well, to hell with the troops.

This week House Democratic leaders will once again to try bring the Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008 up for a vote and we need to know which Blue Dogs plan to join John "candlestick-maker" Tanner in blocking educational benefits for the men and women who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.  

Bear in mind, the only reason to block this vote is because they are too cowardly to stand up and publicly oppose this bill.  If they don't want to support the troops, they should have the guts to come out and say so instead of trying to hide behind a procedural maneuver.  

So please, take a few minutes to call a Blue Dog and ask if they intend to block H.R. 5740 or if they will support educational assistance for veterans.  And tell them that supporting the troops isn't just a slogan...at least it shouldn't be.

And for more action items, go to Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA).

Mike Arcuri (NY): (202) 225-3665
Joe Baca  (CA): (202) 225-6161
John Barrow  (GA): (202) 225-2823
Melissa Bean  (IL): (202) 225-3711
Marion Berry  (AR): (202) 225-4076
Sanford Bishop  (GA): (202) 225-3631
Dan Boren  (OK): (202) 225-2701
Leonard Boswell  (IA): (202) 225-3806
Allen Boyd  (FL): (202) 225-5235
Dennis Cardoza  (CA): (202) 225-6131
Christopher Carney  (PA): (202) 225-3731
Ben Chandler  (KY): (202) 225-4706
Jim Cooper  (TN): (202) 225-4311
Jim Costa  (CA): (202) 225-3341
Bud Cramer (AL): (202) 225-4801
Lincoln Davis  (TN): (202) 225-6831
Joe Donnelly  (IN): (202) 225-3915
Brad Ellsworth  (IN): (202) 225-4636
Gabrille Giffords  (AZ): (202) 225-2542
Kirsten Gillibrand  (NY): (202) 225-5614
Bart Gordon  (TN): (202) 225-4231
Jane Harman  (CA): (202) 225 8220
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin  (SD): (202) 225-2801
Baron Hill  (IN): (202) 225-5315
Tim Holden  (PA): (202) 225-5546
Steve Israel  (NY): (202)  225 3335
Nick Lampson  (TX): (202) 225-5951
Tim Mahoney  (FL): (202) 225-5792
Jim Marshall  (GA): (202) 225-6531
Jim Matheson  (UT): (202) 225-3011
Mike McIntyre  (NC): (202) 225-2731
Charlie Melancon  (LA): (202) 225-4031
Michael Michaud  (ME): (202) 225-6306
Dennis Moore  (KS): (202) 225-2865
Patrick Murphy  (PA): (202) 225-4276
Collin Peterson  (MN): (202) 225-2165
Earl Pomeroy  (ND): (202) 225-2611
Mike Ross  (AR): 1-800-223-2220
John Salazar  (CO): (202) 225-4761
Loretta Sanchez  (CA): (202) 225-2965
Adam Schiff  (CA): (202) 225-4176
David Scott  (GA): (202) 225-2939
Heath Shuler  (NC): (202) 225-6401
Zack Space  (OH): (202) 225-6265
John Tanner  (TN): (202) 225-4714
Gene Taylor  (MS): (202) 225-5772
Mike Thompson  (CA): (202) 225-3311
Charlie Wilson  (OH): (202) 225-5705

Which Is It?  Blue Dogs or Red Dogs?

Fri May 09, 2008 at 03:00:24 PM PDT

It's time to draw a line in the sand.  There are forty-seven members of the Blue Dog Democrats, and we need to know which ones support the U.S. troops who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan and which ones agree with Rep. John Tanner that they are nothing more than deficit-enhancing debris. This is what Mr. Tanner had to say when announcing the plan by a segment of the Blue Dogs to block a vote on the GI Bill of Rights:

Some of us oppose creating a new entitlement program in an emergency spending bill, whether it’s butchers, bakers or candlestick-makers.

A group that has voted time after time to support George Bush's war, at a cost of over $500 billion dollars, now dismisses the men and women who risked their lives as candlestick-makers who don't deserve money to go to college?  The Blue Dog's reason?  Because their budgetary rule of pay-as-you-go has "been ignored one too many times."  Yes, these champions of fiscal responsibility are fine with George Bush's twice-a-year $100 billion "supplementals," they are fine with billions going to Halliburton and Blackwater, but when it comes to providing a benefit to the people who fought in the war that the Blue Dogs supported, well, to hell with the troops.  

The Blue Dogs only need 15 votes to block a vote on this measure which scheduled to come up next week, and when asked if they had enough members opposing the bill, Blue Dog leader Rep. Allen Boyd (D-FL) said:

"There’s 47 of us, what do you think?"

I think that out of the 292 co-sponsors of the bill , 36 are Blue Dog Democrats, which means one of two things:  either Tanner and Boyd plan to join forces with Republicans to kill this bill, or there are at least 4 Blue Dogs who don't have the courage to stand by their convictions and do the right thing.  
It's time to find out where the Blue Dogs stand.  Do they stand with the troops or do they stand with George Bush, John McCain and the Blue Dogs who dismiss the troops as "candlestick-makers" who don't deserve benefits when they return from war?   Call and ask if they intend to help block H.R. 5740.

Mike Arcuri:  (202) 225-3665
Joe Baca:  (202) 225-6161
John Barrow:  (202) 225-2823
Melissa Bean:  (202) 225-3711
Marion Berry: (202) 225-4076
Sanford Bishop:  (202) 225-3631
Dan Boren:  (202) 225-2701
Leonard Boswell:  (202) 225-3806
Allen Boyd:  (202) 225-5235
Dennis Cardoza:  (202) 225-6131
Christopher Carney:  (202) 225-3731
Ben Chandler:  (202) 225-4706
Jim Cooper:  (202) 225-4311
Jim Costa:  (202) 225-3341
Bud Cramer:  (202) 225-4801
Lincoln Davis:  (202) 225-6831
Joe Donnelly:  (202) 225-3915
Brad Ellsworth:  (202) 225-4636
Gabrille Giffords:  (202) 225-2542
Kirsten Gillibrand:  (202) 225-5614
Bart Gordon:  (202) 225-4231
Jane Harman:  (202) 225 8220
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin:  (202) 225-2801
Baron Hill:  (202) 225-5315
Tim Holden:  (202) 225-5546
Steve Israel:  (202) 225-4669
Nick Lampson:  (202) 225-5951
Tim Mahoney:  (202) 225-5792
Jim Marshal:  (202) 225-6531
Jim Matheson:  (202) 225-3011
Mike McIntyre:  (202) 225-2731
Charlie Melancon:  (202) 225-4031
Michael Michaud:  (202) 225-6306
Dennis Moore:  (202) 225-2865
Patrick Murphy:  (202) 225-4276
Collin Peterson:  (202) 225-2165
Earl Pomeroy:  (202) 225-2611
Mike Ross:   1-800-223-2220
John Salazar:   (202) 225-4761
Loretta Sanchez:  (202) 225-2965
Adam Schiff:  (202) 225-4176
David Scott:  (202) 225-2939
Heath Shuler:  (202) 225-6401
Zack Space:  (202) 225-6265
John Tanner:  (202) 225-4714
Gene Taylor: (202) 225-5772
Mike Thompson:  (202) 225-3311
Charlie Wilson:  (202) 225-5705

Across the Pond, It's "Clipboard Man!"

Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 08:58:57 AM PDT

[Cross-posted on BureaucracyBlog].

While icing the knee after a nice little hike yesterday---the first since surgery, thank you---I just came across a column in the Yorkshire Post by Bill Carmichael, a fellow whose columns I'll now keep up with. Here's his intro to Friday's column:

A FEW years back, for a bit of a laugh, I invented a character for this column. I dubbed him "Clipboard Man".

The idea was to lampoon petty officialdom that has reached ridiculous levels in the UK.

Oh, were the UK the only place the likes of Clipboard Man runs unfettered! Carmichael cites some amazingly dotty adventures of Clipboard Man from years past, and reports that Clipboard Man has recently re-surfaced, "more intrusive and creepier than ever."

"Responsibility" and "Accountability" -- Pillars of the Blue Dog Democrats?

Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 07:15:45 PM PDT

Congress is empowered to make laws, not determine whether those laws are Constitutional or whether those laws have been violated. That is the purvey of the Courts.

The individuals who are suing the telecoms for violations of their privacy are not doing so to "make money."  They are doing so to ensure that the mold that is creeping into our Constitution is exposed to some sunlight.

If America is to remain strong, it needs to remain a land of laws, not the land of Presidential whims. I pray that the Blue Dogs seek to live up to their calls for "responsibility" and "accountability" and do not side with the Republicans in providing blanket immunity for actions that have not been judged by those who bear Constitutional authority to do so.

Blue Dog Democrats Sold out Students Last Week

Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 05:29:30 PM PDT

I am still dumbfounded at what happened with student loans last week.  Please read this.  The Blue Dog Democrats have some serious explaining to do.

Also, check out our website:  www.studentloanjustice.org
We started a facebook at http://www.facebook.com/...

Rove 101: How to Undermine Democratic Majority

Tue Dec 04, 2007 at 07:11:37 AM PDT

Emptywheel at The Next Hurrah (and soon to be at Firedoglake!) picks up on an important letter in the Governemnt's response last Friday to the Electronic Freedom Foundation's FOIA request.

Back in July and August 2007, when the House and Senate intelligence committees were negotiating fervently with DNI Mike McConnell to write legislation for FISA update, the Bush Administration was engaged in parallel, back-channel lobbying and negotiations with the Blue Dog Democrats.  And because owning the Blue Dogs ensured that the Administration could get any Bill it wanted, all of the assurances, promises and deal-making between the Administration and "Official" Senate Leadership was a meaningless pony show.

On August 5, 2007, the Bush Administration-Blue Dog Protect America Act (PAA) became law.

It's time to enforce party discipline!

Sun Sep 09, 2007 at 09:43:40 AM PDT

I'm reading a lot of diaries and I think we are all operating in the wrong paradigm.  We've assumed that we have a majority in Congress and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are sheep.  While we are right about the sheep thing, we do not have a majority.  While we are busy obsessing over the Petraeus Report, obsessing about how awful the Bush administration is, how Hillary is too calculating, the only guy is Edwards...blah blah blah, we are missing the obvious.  I'll explain...  

We all hoped that a Democratic Congress would make things different.  But it has made no difference.  Their only weak achievements have been a modest increase in the minimum wage, and slightly improving student loans.  Their greatest achievement has been to give the President everything he desires with no strings attached.  

Poll

Should we actively oppose the Blue Dogs?

62%20 votes
28%9 votes
9%3 votes

| 32 votes | Vote | Results

Senior House Democrats, seeking to placate

Tue Mar 06, 2007 at 04:42:52 PM PDT

Senior House Democrats, seeking to placate members of their party from Republican-leaning districts,

Senior House Democrats, seeking to placate members of their party from Republican-leaning districts, are pushing a plan that would place restrictions on President Bush's ability to wage the war in Iraq but would allow him to waive them if he publicly justifies his position.

The Blue Dogs to the Rescue?

Wed Feb 28, 2007 at 01:31:22 PM PDT

In true full Broderism, the likes of Reps. Allen Boyd, Dennis Moore, and Mike Ross are trumpeting their moderating influences on the Democratic party in today's Roll Call [subscription]. Here's a choice bit from Boyd:

"Let's face it, we all know that both parties, in large part, are controlled by extremes that in some cases are different from what we might represent in the middle," Boyd said. "We don't think the Speaker's philosophy or her particular district's philosophy is important. What we think is important is the management style she uses. How she is inclusive with us, how she acts."

We all know that Nancy Pelosi is an extremist? Only Allen Boyd and his band of 44 Blue Dogs represent the middle? The remaining 190 Dems are a bunch of far-left whacked out extremists? Yes, Allen Boyd, because you have such a positive attitude toward your party and because you are so helpful to the Democratic cause, by all means, Speaker Pelosi should include you. Just think about what you did for us on Social Security. You were so absolutely helpful on that one, being the only Democrat to support Bush's Social Security privatization plan. What a triumph of moderation and bipartisanship that one was.

In all seriousness, the arrogance with which Allen and his merry band of Blue Dog Dems are approaching their role in the party is an obvious problem for leadership. Consider this:

On a recent weekday afternoon, leaders of the moderate group gathered in the office of Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), the coalition's communications chairman, to discuss their place in the new majority, as well as their aims for the 110th Congress. In addition to Ross and Moore, the group included Democratic Reps. Allen Boyd (Fla.), the group's administration chairman, Stephanie Herseth (S.D.), the group's whip, and John Tanner (Tenn.), a co-founder of the Blue Dogs and a current co-chairman of its political action committee.

"I think one of the things that's different now, I think there was a time when Blue Dogs were looked at by some Democrats as though perhaps they weren't really Democrats and I think that's no longer the case," Ross said.

"I think people are recognizing that not only do we represent the middle, which is where we believe the American people are and certainly where we are, I think people within our own Caucus now recognize that we have created the majority and that we have done some pretty heavy lifting as a group to ensure that Democrats did regain a majority...."

In addition, Boyd asserted that Democratic leadership has "been very inclusive when it comes to the committee assignments. They have been very inclusive when it comes to consulting us on legislation. We meet with them on a regular basis."

Did we become a parliamentary government while America wasn't looking? Do we now have a coalition government in which this splinter group of Democrats, a minority of the voting bloc, can work against the will of the majority to gum up the works?

But wait, it gets better:

"We think this is the group that represents where the greatest bloc of Americans are — toward that big middle. Not far left, not far right, but that big middle, that's going to be able to get things done," he added. "And it's going to have to be done on a bipartisan basis."

Did they learn nothing from the previous 12 years in the wilderness? This is not a Republican party interested in bipartisanship. The Bush administration is not interested in working with any Democrats. The Republican party and the Bush administration is interested in using the Blue Dogs as a wedge in the Democratic majority. They are using the Blue Dogs to further nothing but the Republican cause.

The Blue Dog Dems are kidding themselves if they think they are on the vanguard of the new Democratic party--the Democrats didn't so much win in many of these districts as the Republicans lost, and the Republicans lost in large part because of the absolutely disastrous Iraq war. A war which the American people expect a new Democratic Congress to do its utmost to get us out of. And how do they repay that trust the American people have given them? They work actively to derail the Murtha plan, a plan which, btw, a majority of the American public supports!

The Blue Dogs have led the way on some important fiscal issues, taking the lead on pay-as-you-go funding limitations being passed in the first 100 hours. They should stick with the fiscal issues, those core issues for them. And stay the hell out of the Iraq debate if they can do nothing more than splinter the caucus.

Good gawd. They walk among us as Democrats.

Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 04:02:18 PM PDT

I'm having a difficult time with this from the Blue Dog Democrats. I thought Joe was out of touch and he was all we had to worry about but these people are clueless and it's embarrassing that they have (D) after their name. And there are 44 of them! Amazing.

Here's what they're striving for - they don't want the occupation to stop. God knows why but like good politicians they say they want to make sure we know where all the money goes and who's spending it.

I'm beside myself with anger at this crap. Poll after poll after poll shows Americans want the troops out and while there's some quibbling over how long to take, a huge majority want us out of there. So, what are these idiots talking about? Spending the money efficiently and with accountability. Well, whoopdi freakin do; they sound like good Republicans to me. Kill some more people and watch more Americans die but spend the money wisely.

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Are you represented by a blue dog? and what to do if...

Sat Dec 09, 2006 at 07:08:57 AM PDT

There are 37 Blue Dog  or "moderate" Democrats in the 110th Congress. That's using the projected 229 official Dems, 2 Independents caucusing with us. If the current totals hold, (c'mon Christine Jennings!) that's still 16%(see the list at http://www.house.gov/... )

That seems like a lot, to me. Sixteen percent "moderate" Democrats. Sixteen percent having special little "meetings" with the President. http://www.firedoglake.com/... Some of that 16% voting for torture in our name. http://www.dailykos.com/... Some doing the Family Research Council's bidding on issues like marriage "protection", eliminating abortion on military bases, and embryonic stem cell research. http://www.frc.org/...

Sixteen percent. Well, we can afford it. After all, we're in the majority, and we can count on "moderate" Republicans voting for common sense issues, rather than picking away at our 16% just for political points. We have moderates, and they have moderates, right? Right?

Poll

Are you represented by a blue dog?

27%8 votes
10%3 votes
3%1 votes
20%6 votes
0%0 votes
24%7 votes
13%4 votes

| 29 votes | Vote | Results

Blue Dog Torturecrats

Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 11:03:33 PM PDT

After reading an article about Democratic party unity and the Blue Dog Democrats, I decided to look them up and compare to my list of Congressional Torturers.

What I found was interesting.  37 members of the Blue Dog whatever in the 108th congress.  23 of them voted in favor of torture.  This accounted for 23 of the 30 democrats to vote for torture.  Now the Blue Dogs have increased their membership to 43 in the 110th caucus.  

New Democrats? Stupid Democrats.

Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 05:31:35 PM PDT

From The Hill via Josh:

President Bush has invited leaders of the conservative Blue Dog and New Democrat coalitions to the White House Friday to discuss areas of "mutual cooperation" in the words of one Democratic Congressional aide....

Reps. Alan Boyd (Fla.), Dennis Moore (Kan.) and Mike Ross (Ark.) will represent the Blue Dogs, a coalition of usually southern, conservative-leaning Democrats and Reps. Joe Crowley (N.Y.), Artur Davis (Ala.), Ron Kind (Wis.), Adam Smith (Wash.) and Ellen Tauscher (Calif.) are set to represent the New Democrats, a group of business-friendly centrists, at the meeting, which the president is expected to attend.

They must be reading Broder. There really is no other explanation for such incredible stupidity. They've decided to hitch their wagon to Mr. 30 Percent Approval? Really? See guys, that's not demonstrating your independence and capacity for "bipartisanship." That's just plain old treachery, and idiotic treachery to boot. Steny needs to learn how to work that whip.

Update: Let me clarify what I'm saying. I'm not saying that the Democratic leadership should not be meeting with Bush. That's part of their job. If he'd agree to meet with them every day it would be fantastic. But the leadership has to be able to lead, and this move by Bush is an end-run around the leadership. It's an effort by the administration to peel away a block of Democrats that have, to the party's detriment, shown their willingness to buck party leadership. It's about respecting party leadership, staying unified within the caucus, and maintaining the strength that will be necessary to get good legislation passed. A unified caucus will be able to accomplish more. This move fractures the caucus.


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