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John McCain: The Clarification Express

Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:04:54 AM PDT

We often hear about news outlets slashing their budgets and downsizing their operations in an effort to save money, but there's one thing that the traditional media really needs to invest in and that's a dictionary, because it doesn't seem like they know what the word "clarify" means.

Twice in the past two days, the media has reported on outrageous or downright disturbing claims made by John McCain on the campaign trail to whip up the faithful, and then have described his backpedaling as "clarifications," rather than the flip-flopping, damage control that they are.  On Wednesday, McCain said:

The bridge in Minneapolis didn't collapse because there wasn't enough money. The bridge in Minneapolis collapsed because so much money was spent on wasteful, unnecessary pork-barrel projects.

That's pretty clear, right?  A definitive statement that the bridge collapsed because of pork barrel spending.  But after the national co-chairman of his campaign, who also happens to be the Governor of Minnesota, objected, McCain was allowed to clarify and say what he really meant was:

...only that earmarks divert money from necessary projects toward unneeded pork-barrel ones.

Obviously we all misunderstood when he said "the bridge collapsed because..."   And then yesterday McCain said:

My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.

My friends, that's a straightforward statement.  But damn, it does sound bad.  So the media allowed him to clarify it:

No, no, I was talking about that we had fought the Gulf War for several reasons.

Oh, he meant that other war...the one we fought 17 years ago.  Well, sure.  It's a shame that "the word 'again' was misconstrued."  Because he certainly never meant that it's happening today...or that it's ever happened before.  

"Again" doesn't mean again, "the bridge collapsed because," doesn't mean the bridge collapsed because, black is white, up is down, move along, there's nothing to see here...and the straight talking, moderate, maverick express rolls on.  

And of course there are other issues that have popped up during this campaign that McCain hasn't had to clarify, but that's only because the media chooses to ignore them.  But if they ever finish writing that novel and get back to doing their day jobs, perhaps they could get McCain to explain:

  • What he meant when he said, on three occasions, that Iran was training Sunni extremists to fight in Iraq?  Since he is the self and media appointed foreign policy candidate, it would be nice to know if he's aware of the difference between Sunnis, Shiites, and their respective relationship with Iran.
  • Which of Reverend John Hagee's positions does he endorse?  That the Catholic Church is a cult that conspired with Hitler, that Hurricane Katrina was a just punishment for the people of New Orleans, that America is cursed and doomed, or that abortions are available in public schools?
  • Why he is now saying that the "Mission Accomplished" banner was a mistake when in 2003 he cited it as proof that the conflict was over?

And if that's too much hard work for the media, can they at least ask McCain to clarify exactly how many years he is willing to have American soldiers attacked, wounded or killed in Iraq?  So far we only know for sure that it's less than a 100 years.
   

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  •  So this is the 9th Position on Earmarks in (7+ / 0-)

    3 Weeks time.

    To recycle a Gooper cliche McSame has more positions than the Kama Sutra.

    Saying the Iraq "Surge" worked is like saying Thelma & Louise had a flying car.

    by JML9999 on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:09:58 AM PDT

  •  McCain is giving... (6+ / 0-)

    ...us all the fodder for any number of ads that would only need to contain his original statement and then the hedging/obfuscating/dissembling/"clarifying" statement that came later.  There could be a whole series of them:  "The Double Talk Express, part X"

    The RNC would howl, but who cares?  It could demolish the Straight Talk Express myth, and do so with only McCain's own statements.

  •  i'm sure it's already been posted here, but... (3+ / 0-)

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    this is a nice list of mccain flipflops.

    there is some other fun mccain slamming here and here.

    anyone can find hypocrisy in others... be original and find your own - james gyre

    by that veiled gazelle on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:13:04 AM PDT

  •  This demonstrates that the Media is mostly (1+ / 0-)

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    worthless.  Have you seen anyone ask Obama what he meant to say in SF and then accept what he said?  No way!  But there is liberal bias in the media.  David Brock and Paul Waldman have done a great job on the media in Free Ride.  And Cliff Schecter has reviewed McCain's straight talk and honorable positions while in the Senate, at least when he showed up to vote. He is one of the best flip-floppers around.  Obama is going to need lots of advocates out on the trail when his nomination is confirmed.

    When I have an opinion, it may be found here

    by walkabout on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:14:57 AM PDT

    •  We ought to call this the "Digby Effect" (0+ / 0-)

      She's been outlining McCain's crafty incest with the Media for months, and explaining exactly why it's going to work.

      It will take an immense amount of work to get them to change their stripes. They've got too much invested in him being the Straight Talk Boy to tell anyone the truth.

      Which is an even better reason to keep running ads of McCain saying exactly what he's saying. People will believe their ears.

    •  Simpler explanation (1+ / 0-)

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      I think there is a very simple explanation: the mainstream media is unable to chew gum and walk at the same time.

      Last week on his blog, a major national reporter for the Washington Post admitted as such.

      Clinton-Obama and especially Obama's relationship with Wright and flag pins are such important stories that no national reporter for a major news outlet can be bothered by McCain flip-flops or his outright misstatements.

      It seems the only place on cable where this covered is on two shows on a network devoted to comedy: The Daily Show and the Colbert Report.

      Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren. Bertolt Brecht

      by MoDem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:00:51 AM PDT

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  •  As long as crap keeps coming out of his mouth . . (2+ / 0-)

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    the Democratic ads up to the election just write themselves.

    The whole election could be fought by teevee spots just showing John McCain talking on the stump.

  •  Remember, they're just reporters. (0+ / 0-)

    They "report."  If McCain says it's a clarification, then that's what they have to call it.  That's reporting.

    I suppose now you're going to point out that there is a different set of rules in place for Democrats.  Sigh.  Details, details.

    "Jiminy God!" --Larry Craig, on the shocking notion that anyone might think he was gay

    by rlamoureux on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:15:55 AM PDT

    •  If they are just "reporters" there to report the (0+ / 0-)

      why is it that they express opinions on Obama all the time?  

      And you are right, there are a different set of rules for the Democrats.  How can it be otherwise when the MSM is owned by the Republican party?

      •  Why? (0+ / 0-)

        Colbert identified how they are to "report."

        Bush, and now McCain, gives them what to report.  The reporters type up what they have been given and then they are free to write that fictional book every reporter has on his/her computer about a brave investigative journalist.

        They are doing their job when they are stenographers.

        Wer kämpft, kann verlieren. Wer nicht kämpft, hat schon verloren. Bertolt Brecht

        by MoDem on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:03:39 AM PDT

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  •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

    What McCain said about the Minneapolis bridge was pretty clear to me, though that's more than I'm normally willing to give Mr. Maverick. McCain is correct in some ways on this specific issue save for how much he's trying to pin wasteful spending on the Democrats. Don't forget how much we cry foul when Obama is forced to clarify his words when the media takes them out of context.

    If we want a new kind of politics, let's focus on content - not syntax and diction.

    •  I'll (3+ / 0-)

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      blame the democrats for wasteful spending if the next democratic administration runs up an additional 4 trillion dollars on the deficit.  Until then, I don't want to hear anything about fiscal responsibility and republican joined together in a positive manner.  If the press tries it, some democratic surrogate needs to hit it hard.  If its on a morning show with a rep from each party and mccain's surrogate says 'wasteful spending' the dem surrogate has to say like George Bush's deficit that you supported by the war and the tax cuts?  Earmarks are wasteful but they are a tiny percentage of the real waste in the budget/off budget that the neocons lie about.

  •  I'm getting a bad feeling here (0+ / 0-)

    Last night I had what I think is a epiphany.  I am starting to believe that the Republicans have no intention to run McCain as their candidate.  Their convention isn't until September 1.  I think what they are doing is using McCain as their sacrificial lamb to take the heat until September 1.  Then at the convention they will announce that McCain is either too old or too sick (haven't seen those medical records yet, have we) to be their candidate.  They will then probably choose Romney with Huckabee as VP.  At that point there will only be two months left for the Democrats to take Romney down.  In the meantime, they will continue to bloody Obama.

    If the Republican party really supported John McCain as their candidate, they would be pumping money into the campaign.  But we all know that McCain's financial support is pitiful.  I believe that most Republicans know that he will not be the eventual nominee and they are saving their funds to donate to the real candidate after September 1.

    •  interesting theory... but (0+ / 0-)

      mccain has a lot more cache with dems and independents than republican.

      and while he is a lame duck with the republicans, on some levels those aren't the people he has to convince in november.

      you might be prescient, though!

      anyone can find hypocrisy in others... be original and find your own - james gyre

      by that veiled gazelle on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:21:52 AM PDT

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  •  McCain has two big problems in this regard (2+ / 0-)

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    1. He has been the biggest media whore in Congress for 20 years, and in those countless video tapes are hundreds of contradictions and statements made under shifting political winds.  
    1.  He has no filter between his brain and mouth, and it reveals more often than not that he is either pandering or removed from reality.
  •  My thoughts on this? That it has more to do w/ .. (0+ / 0-)

    ...his age.  Which is NOT good.  Stay with me here.  I'm 46 years old and my momma told me to Always respect your elders and as I got older and saw my own parents aging I learned to let some things that they said go Because of their age and out of respect.  Do you think that might be why so many presumably intelligent people are giving Mr. McCain a pass?  This is another reason why we should not be giving the presidency to a 71 almost 72 years old...it's hard to tell them anything and at that age, they think they know it all.

    Just my thoughts..

    "For it isn't enough to talk about peace. One must believe in it. And it isn't enough to believe in it. One must work at it." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    by Donise on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:19:52 AM PDT

    •  I mean no disrespect to old people. Hell, I'm... (0+ / 0-)

      ... middle aged myself moving towards old.  That's life.

      "For it isn't enough to talk about peace. One must believe in it. And it isn't enough to believe in it. One must work at it." - Eleanor Roosevelt

      by Donise on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:24:23 AM PDT

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      •  that is real... (2+ / 0-)

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        i don't love all the ageist stuff that gets thrown around about mccain (including on this site), mostly because not all old people are demented, incompetent or out of touch.  

        BUT HE IS!!!

        again, i'd love my 80+ year old pagan anarchist friend from chicago to lead the free world if she'd do it, so this isn't about being OLD... it's about being ABLE.

        anyone can find hypocrisy in others... be original and find your own - james gyre

        by that veiled gazelle on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:27:28 AM PDT

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    •  I disagree (1+ / 0-)

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      I think it's clearly because the media is run by large corporations and McCain is their friend.  Economically, he's good for the extremely rich.  And those are the people who own the media.

      "When they own the information, they can bend it all they want."

      They cover wedge issues (Rev. Wright, Rev. Wright, flag pin, bitter, Rev. Wright) because otherwise, what are they going to discuss & report on?  The failure of capitalism?  I don't think so!

    •  Always respect your elders.... (0+ / 0-)

      However....
      if said elder is a candidate for President and is spouting crap that will affect your country and YOU, it's time to take off the kid gloves.  Age notwithstanding.
      We've had more than 8 years of the media not saying what should have been said about the candidacy and subsequent (p)Residency of George W Bush.  Why the kid gloves with him?  Brain damage from too much booze and coke?

      I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

      by Lilyvt on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:32:52 AM PDT

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  •  There is no energy plan either (0+ / 0-)

    Kevin Drum points out that the claim that he has an energy policy that will end US dependence on foreign oil is also an outright lie. There's no way to do that.

    Come see Karen Tumulty discuss the MSM at Virtually Speaking on July 31st.

    by JayAckroyd on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:20:23 AM PDT

  •  Hey!.... (0+ / 0-)

    Friends, we're talking about JOHN MCCAIN here....
    He's the straight talk express guy and he means what he says, dammit.  In every different way possible.
    If one way doesn't seem quite right, he'll change it.  No flip-flops for him, he's the straight talker, dammit.
    (Psssssssst don't get him mad)

    I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

    by Lilyvt on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:22:06 AM PDT

  •  The "Nonsense Express" (0+ / 0-)

    Brought to you by John McCain-McSame-McInsane-McBush.

    It's nonsense, its nonsense, it's nonsense, it's nonsense....it's nonsensical.

  •  The Straightalking Seesaw. nt (0+ / 0-)

  •  I would surely be distressed (0+ / 0-)

    if I was a republican and this man was the best that we could find.

    On the other hand, it looks like the republicans knew they were doomed and selected the man they who would take the blame for the loss.


    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:24:23 AM PDT

  •  How many times (0+ / 0-)

    can this guy "mis speak" before he is taken to task by the media.  This is downright scary!

  •  There was a photo (1+ / 0-)

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    in the Sun Times today.  It showed McCain bitching at some Vietnamese child (maybe 7 years old) who was holding his hat out (literally) begging.  Apparently McCain had told him already to get lost and the kid (who looks underfed) didn't scram.

    It was a very telling pic.  Would love to see it in an ad....McCain telling kids to get lost.  Kind of like his vote on health insurance for kids.

  •  Thanks so much Barb... (2+ / 0-)

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    This is exactly the article I was going to write this morning. You just saved me two hours of work. I owe you one.

    Now I can start on my Ode to an Elitist.

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    by KingOneEye on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:27:41 AM PDT

  •  It would save us all a lot of trouble (2+ / 0-)

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    if the media would just let McBush's campaign staff write/revise news articles. This would be more efficient by cutting out the middle sycophant man

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." General Buck Turgidson

    by muledriver on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:29:02 AM PDT

  •  Every McBush speech starts with a whopper: (2+ / 0-)

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    My friends...

    You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

    by Cartoon Peril on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:33:09 AM PDT

  •  The Media and McCain (3+ / 0-)

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    It is simply astounding how the MSM continues to make excuses for Senator John McCain, all the while dragging Obama down with Rev. Wright. Time and time again, McCain makes statements that are either incorrect (i.e. Sunni vs Shiite), contradictory to his former stance (i.e. torture, taxes, 100 years of more war, etc) or just plain controversial--('we went to war for oil'). Our national media has become a complete sham. At a time when Americans are really struggling with tough issues like our economy, healthcare, jobs and war, what does MSNBC run a 1 hour special on last night? Rev. Wright! No one cares about an obscure minister that made controversial statements. You can find one on every street corner. Oh but wait, there seems to be a need to discredit Senator Obama, and Wrights all they have, so Wright it is, 24-7 and our nation's real problems be damned. Oops, better not use the "D-word!"--such hypocrisy. 4000+ Americans killed in an unnecessary war for oil and there have been no repercussions for the Bush administration that put this tragedy into motion.

    The entire media profession should be ashamed at the damage they do to our intelligence, EVERY SINGLE DAY, with spin, misinformation, diversion, collusion with the pentagon—the list keeps growing. Is it any wonder that we want change?

    By the way, no one believes that the vote is close in N.C. no matter what the so-called polls say. More spin from the 'straight-talk' media. As for McCain, every day we learn more and more why he is NOT Commander-In-Chief material. He simply is not functional or even coherent without his handlers afoot. If he is the best the GOP can put forth for president, then come November, we can probably look forward to commercials on Rev. Wright every 5 minutes, as they will want as much diversion from their candidate as possible. What a sad state of affairs our Presidential elections and the media that reports on it, have become.

    Our country wants and needs Barack Obama: a voice of honesty and reason. We need change and we need it NOW. Period.

  •  You just can't handle his Maverickness (0+ / 0-)

    What you're seeing is Maverickication.  His positions are so Mavericky, that you can't interpret them literally.  You're supposed to stand back and say "Wow.  That's one Mavericky Dude."  For God's sake, you're not supposed to actually LISTEN to what he says!

  •  If my memory serves me well... (1+ / 0-)

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    weren't we going to avoid having American troops fighting an urban guerrilla war in Baghdad no matter what else went down with Bush's Big Adventure and if so WTF is up with this:

    BAGHDAD (CNN)  -- At least 28 people were wounded Saturday morning in a U.S. attack on a building near a hospital in Baghdad's sprawling Sadr City slum, an Iraqi Interior Ministry official said...
    Employees of al-Sadr Hospital were among the wounded and the facility's property sustained damage in the strike, including some ambulances...
    "We did hit the target, which was a criminal command and control center, which was near a hospital," the military said, adding that it was assessing damages...

    if my memory serves me well...

  •  "He's so full of it" (1+ / 0-)

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    almost sounds like a Carly Simon song.

    Plus, he knows what crapped out means, which will help him explain his condition on the morning of November 5 - PBCliberal

    by Nulwee on Sat May 03, 2008 at 10:44:31 AM PDT

  •  This is the Sprinkles Media. n/t (0+ / 0-)

  •  McSame's new slogan (0+ / 0-)

    "Yes we can! Uh -- No we can't"

    Let the pastors, rabbis and mullahs mutter their mumbo-jumbo in private and leave the rest of us alone.

    by detler on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:20:45 AM PDT

  •  Just as egregious is this practice... (0+ / 0-)

    Deliberately (unless he's absolutely "stupid") mislabeling health care plans...so the dummies that listen to him can once again be frightened to death....(besides the absolute idiocy of calling "inefficient" countries which get better results while investing only half as much per capita...FINALLY someone is calling him on it...
    albeit tepidly). DO READ THIS NYT ARTICLE, PLEASE...and CIRCULATE:

    http://www.nytimes.com/...

  •  And none of this will change (0+ / 0-)

    until we have a nominee that can call the media on it's shameful lack of coverage.

    Superdelegates, are you listening?

    -6.5, -7.59. Dump Harry Reid. Put in someone who can rid us of Holy Joe Lieberman.

    by DrWolfy on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:27:04 AM PDT

  •  Let me clarify something... (0+ / 0-)

    ...McCain = TURD!

    Clear now?

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight.

    by JeffW on Sat May 03, 2008 at 11:31:16 AM PDT

  •  Lying about healthcare too (0+ / 0-)

    He's also lying about health care, and not getting called on it:

    "There are those that want a massive government takeover of the health care system in America. Senator Clinton wants to make it mandatory, and, as I understand, they might even garnish somebody’s wages if they didn’t comply. I mean, a remarkable statement. And Senator Obama has basically the same kind of government massive intervention and takeover of health care in America.

    "But before you decide to sign on to that kind of a program, go to Canada, or go to European countries that have government-run health care systems. My friends, they don’t work, they’re inefficient, and they end up in a two-tiered system where the wealthiest can afford to pay for their own health care and those with low income sometimes wait six or eight months for a routine kind of treatment. And that’s what I’m not going to let happen to the United States of America."

    **********************

    "There will be efforts to have a single-payer big government solution by the Democrats. They’ve already espoused those causes. If you believe them, please take a trip to Canada or England before you decide to support such a thing."

    ************************

    "Look at what the Democrats’ proposal is. It’s a government-run, single-payer system like they have in Canada and like they have in England."

    First, neither of the Democrats is proposing a single-payer system, unfortunately. Second, both the Canadians and the British have much higher satisfaction with their health care than we do. Third, all public health statistics show we lag behind them.

    We lag behing both countries in life expecancy, the UK by several months, Canada by several years. In infant mortality, the U.S. has higher infant mortality rates, by 50 percent, than either the UK or Canada. Moreover, we are behind Cuba, a poor developing country, but one with socialized medicine. In fact, all the countries with universal health care rank ahead of us on all public health statistics.

    So McCain is either ignorant or simply lying about the U.S. having better health statistics. Of course, his health is dependent of the government dole, so he doesn't have to worry.

    It's also a lie about waiting times to see doctors. The U.S. has the second longest waiting time to see a GP than any other country than Canada. This is partly because we have such a preponderance of specialists. We do have the second shortest waiting time to see a specialist, but lag behind Germany, which has universal coverage. Not that we don't have to wait. On average, we have to wait weeks to see a specialist.

    It's noteworthy that we are not getting our money's worth. Per capita, we spend twice as much on health care than most of the developed countries with universal health care.

    Are we getting our money's worth, Senator McCain?

    Stop lying, or educate yourself!

  •  Living in the Past. (0+ / 0-)

    Oh, he meant that other war...the one we fought 17 years ago.

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    by ROGNM on Sat May 03, 2008 at 12:10:30 PM PDT

  •  Other McCain comments (0+ / 0-)

    Did McCain claim that David Petreaus wheeled around Baghdad in an UNARMORED Humvee?
    Did he walk around town photographed in a flak jacket and squad of protection while telling the press conditions were improving?
    Is he still contending "the surge is working" and "things are getting better" in Iraq by ignoring the troop casualty count in April?
    Did he say the mission WAS accomplished because that's what the banner said?
    Was he posing with Dubya with his birthday cake while New Orleans was destroyed?
    Maybe he would like to hold a press conference to "clarify" some of those McCain moments.

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